Saturday, July 28, 2018
Saturday, July 14, 2018
Laodicea
"It is only as the law of God is restored to its rightful position that there can be a revival of primitive faith and godliness among His professed people. “Thus saith the Lord, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls.” Jeremiah 6:16 http://www.whiteestate.org/books/gc/gc27.html As the cross of Calvary, with its infinite sacrifice for the sins of men, was revealed, they saw that nothing but the merits of Christ could suffice to atone for their transgressions; this alone could reconcile man to God. With faith and humility they accepted the Lamb of God, that taketh away the sin of the world. Through the blood of Jesus they had "remission of sins that are past." These souls brought forth fruit meet for repentance. They believed and were baptized, and rose to walk in newness of life--new creatures in Christ Jesus; not to fashion themselves according to the former lusts, but by the faith of the Son of 462 God to follow in His steps, to reflect His character, and to purify themselves even as He is pure. The things they once hated they now loved, and the things they once loved they hated. The proud and self-assertive became meek and lowly of heart. The vain and supercilious became serious and unobtrusive. The profane became reverent, the drunken sober, and the profligate pure. The vain fashions of the world were laid aside. 464 Before the final visitation of God's judgments upon the earth there will be among the people of the Lord such a revival of primitive godliness as has not been witnessed since apostolic times. The Spirit and power of God will be poured out upon His children. At that time many will separate themselves from those churches in which the love of this world has supplanted love for God and His word. Many, both of ministers and people, will gladly accept those great truths which God has caused to be proclaimed at this time to prepare a people for the Lord's second coming. The enemy of souls desires to hinder this work; and before the time for such a movement shall come, he will endeavor to prevent it by introducing a counterfeit. 467 The law of God, from its very nature, is unchangeable. It is a revelation of the will and the character of its Author. 475 Professed Christians yearly expend an immense sum upon useless and pernicious indulgences, while souls are perishing for the word of life. God is robbed in tithes and offerings, while they consume upon the altar of destroying lust more than they give to relieve the poor or for the support of the gospel. If all who profess to be followers of Christ were truly sanctified, their means, instead of being spent for needless and even hurtful indulgences, would be turned into the Lord's treasury, and Christians would set an example of temperance, self-denial, and self-sacrifice. Then they would be the light of the world." http://www.whiteestate.org/devotional/ofc/07_13.asp "As trials thicken around us, both separation and unity will be seen in our ranks. Some who are now ready to take up weapons of warfare will in times of real peril make it manifest that they have not built upon the solid rock; they will yield to temptation. Those who have had great light and precious privileges, but have not improved them, will, under one pretext or another, go out from us. Not having received the love of the truth, they will be taken in the delusions of the enemy; they will give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, and will depart from the faith. But, on the other hand, when the storm of persecution really breaks upon us, the true sheep will hear the true Shepherd's voice. Self-denying efforts will be put forth to save the lost, and many who have strayed from the fold will come back to follow the great Shepherd. The people of God will draw together and present to the enemy a united front. In view of the common peril, strife for supremacy will cease; there will be no disputing as to who shall be accounted greatest."
Tuesday, July 3, 2018
examining each text---more on Jesus=God
(They say)--"Bible Verses That Indicate Jesus Is Not God The Creator https://www.interfaith.org/community/threads/11508/
1. Matthew 24:36 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.24.KJV
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only.
Here Jesus makes a distinction between what he knows and what the Father knows."
(But I say) Jesus was both fully God and fully man. (Compare Genesis 1:1,26 "1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." https://my.bible.com/bible/1/GEN.1.KJV to John 1:1-4 "1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men." https://my.bible.com/bible/1/JHN.1.KJV and Isaiah 9:6,7 "6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this." https://my.bible.com/bible/1/ISA.9.KJV Isaiah 7:14 "14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." https://my.bible.com/bible/1/ISA.7.KJV to Matthew 1:21 "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. 22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.1.KJV In His humanity Jesus did not know, but I'm sure that He does now.
"2. Matthew 26:39 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.26.KJV
My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me, yet not as I will, but as Thou will.
Jesus’ will is likewise autonomous from God’s Will. Jesus is seeking acquiescence to God’s will."
(But I say) Again His humanity shrunk from the thought of torture and death. He wouldn't have volunteered for the job of restoring us humans if it hadn't been His will. 1 Peter 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, https://my.bible.com/bible/1/1PE.1.KJV
"3. John 5:26 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/JHN.5.KJV
For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself.
Jesus received his life from God. God received his life from no one. He is eternally self-existent." (But I say) see also verse 17 and 18 of the same chapter! "But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God." (same link as above)
"4. John 5:30 (same link as above)
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.
Jesus says, “by myself, I can do nothing.” This indicates that Jesus is relying upon his own relationship with God. He is not trying to “please myself” but rather is seeking to “please the one who sent me.”" (But I say) Again being fully God and fully human, Jesus didn't use his Godliness to overcome anything but asked His Father because that is how we would have to overcome. He had to live in his humanness in order to show us the way to live was by clinging to God.
"5. John 5:19 (same link as above)
The Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees the Father doing, because whatever the Father does, the Son does also.
Jesus declares that he is following a pattern laid down by God. He is expressing obedience to God."(But I say) see #4
"6. Mark 10:18 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MRK.10.KJV
Why do you call me good? No one is good, except God alone.
Here Jesus emphatically makes a distinction between himself and God." (But I say) It wasn't a rebuke for calling Him good, he was making a statement that the rich young ruler was acknowledging Jesus divinity.
"7. John 14:28 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/JHN.14.KJV
The Father is greater than I.
This is another strong statement that makes a distinction between Jesus and God." (But I say) see #4 again.
"8. Matthew 6:9 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.6.KJV
Our Father, which art in Heaven.
He didn’t pray, Our Father, which art standing right here!” (But I say) Acts 7:49
Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest? https://my.bible.com/bible/1/ACT.7.KJV Yes God the Father resides in Heaven. (note: only called Father and Begotten son because Jesus took the form of humanity when He was here on earth)
"9. Matthew 27:46 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.27.KJV
My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Inconceivable if he is God the Creator." (But I say) Jesus is quoting Psalms 22:1 "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring 6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people. 7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 8 He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him. 13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion. 14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels. 15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death. 16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have enclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture." https://my.bible.com/bible/1/PSA.22.KJV He did this as one last attempt to get their attention because the Psalm was a prophecy about himself. Then Psalms 23 and 24 were continuing prophecies about himself to. Him speaking those words were more in faith, of Psalms 24:7 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. 8 Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle. 9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. 10 Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah. These words were about Him going home to heaven after his death. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/PSA.24.KJV John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (and #1,4 again, link in #1 for John 1)
"10. John 17:21-23 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/JHN.17.KJV
. . .that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. . ..that they may be one as we are one: I in them and you in me.
In this prayer Jesus defines the term “to be one.” It is clearly accomplished through the relationship of two autonomous beings. Christian believers are to model their relationship (to become one) after the relationship of God and Christ (as God and Christ are one). Notice that “to be one” does not mean to be “one and the same.” " (But I say) Philippians 2:6 (KJV) 6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" There are three individual beings who are all equal to each other. 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.28.KJV
"11. 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/1CO.15.KJV
For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
Paul declares that God put everything under Christ, except God himself. Instead God rules all things through Christ. (remember: “through him all things were made.”)" (But I say,) (Um, are you contradicting your own #9?) Matthew 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.4.KJV Jesus never once stopped anyone from worshiping Himself. Just a few examples: Matthew 15:25 (KJV) Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. John 9:38 (KJV) And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him. Matthew 28:17 (KJV) And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. Mark 5:6 (KJV) But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, Luke 24:52 (KJV) And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:
"12. Hebrews 1:3 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/HEB.1.KJV
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being.
Jesus is the exact representation of his being. I send my representative to Congress. He is not me, myself. He is my representative." (But I say,) your congressional representative is not your EXACT representation. This verse speaks for itself.
"13. Hebrews 4:15 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/HEB.4.KJV(compared with James 1:13)
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet without sin.
Jesus has been tempted in every way, just as we are, yet he never sinned. See James 1:13: When tempted, no one should say, God is tempting me. For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/JAS.1.KJV Jesus was tempted in every way, but God cannot be tempted. This is why Jesus said, “don’t call me good, none are good, only God.” " (But I say,) first you are misquoting Jesus. He never said, "Don't call me good. What He said was, "why are you calling me Good?" (see #6) God cannot be tempted, but the humanity that Jesus took upon Himself could.
"14. Hebrews 5:7-9 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/HEB.5.KJV
During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him
Jesus had to walk a course of faith and obedience in order to achieve perfection. By achieving perfection, Jesus “became” the source of eternal salvation." (But I say, ) You left out a little phrase that says, "7 Who in the days of his flesh...") talking about when God took human form. Yes Jesus came and offered up prayers, and submitted His human will to that of the divine, because of this verse: 1 Peter 2:21 (KJV) "For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:" Jesus came to give us an example of how we could live. He could not have done this if He USED His divinity. Just because we cannot explain how He could be 100% human AND 100% Divine does not make any of His claims to be equal with God untrue. In fact, He would have been guilty of blasphemy if it were not true, which would make Him a most evil being and not a good man or prophet as some claim. See also Matthew 1:23 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.1.KJV Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. (Numbers 1-14 above are copied directly from link above. My personal words are after each number and start with "But I say" until you get to the next number.) (The link below is directly copied as is, without editing, underneath it)
https://www.gotquestions.org/is-Jesus-God.html
"Question: "Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?"
Answer: The Bible never records Jesus saying the precise words, “I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus’ words in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason: “You, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. When Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one,” He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, “58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” Jews who heard this statement responded by taking up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded (Leviticus 24:16).
John reiterates the concept of Jesus’ deity: “The Word [Jesus] was God” and “the Word became flesh” (John 1:1, 14). These verses clearly indicate that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us, “Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” Who bought the church with His own blood? Jesus Christ. And this same verse declares that God purchased His church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!
Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus, “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. Titus 2:13 encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1). In Hebrews 1:8, the Father declares of Jesus, “But about the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The Father refers to Jesus as “O God,” indicating that Jesus is indeed God.
In Revelation, an angel instructed the apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11; 14:33; 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation did. There are many other passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus’ deity.
The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that, if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death."
Who was Satan wanting to be? Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!O Lucifer: or, O day star 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/ISA.14.KJV .Daniel 4:2 I thought it good to shew the signs and wonders that the high God hath wrought toward me. 17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/DAN.4.KJV Psalms 78:35 And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/PSA.78.KJV 1 Corinthians 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/1CO.10.KJV 1 Peter 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: https://my.bible.com/bible/1/1PE.1.KJV Answer : Jesus =most high God Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/HEB.1.KJV
See also my other blog on this subject: http://iodtiger.blogspot.com/2013/03/jesusgod.html
1. Matthew 24:36 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.24.KJV
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only.
Here Jesus makes a distinction between what he knows and what the Father knows."
(But I say) Jesus was both fully God and fully man. (Compare Genesis 1:1,26 "1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." https://my.bible.com/bible/1/GEN.1.KJV to John 1:1-4 "1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men." https://my.bible.com/bible/1/JHN.1.KJV and Isaiah 9:6,7 "6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this." https://my.bible.com/bible/1/ISA.9.KJV Isaiah 7:14 "14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." https://my.bible.com/bible/1/ISA.7.KJV to Matthew 1:21 "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. 22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.1.KJV In His humanity Jesus did not know, but I'm sure that He does now.
"2. Matthew 26:39 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.26.KJV
My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me, yet not as I will, but as Thou will.
Jesus’ will is likewise autonomous from God’s Will. Jesus is seeking acquiescence to God’s will."
(But I say) Again His humanity shrunk from the thought of torture and death. He wouldn't have volunteered for the job of restoring us humans if it hadn't been His will. 1 Peter 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, https://my.bible.com/bible/1/1PE.1.KJV
"3. John 5:26 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/JHN.5.KJV
For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself.
Jesus received his life from God. God received his life from no one. He is eternally self-existent." (But I say) see also verse 17 and 18 of the same chapter! "But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God." (same link as above)
"4. John 5:30 (same link as above)
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.
Jesus says, “by myself, I can do nothing.” This indicates that Jesus is relying upon his own relationship with God. He is not trying to “please myself” but rather is seeking to “please the one who sent me.”" (But I say) Again being fully God and fully human, Jesus didn't use his Godliness to overcome anything but asked His Father because that is how we would have to overcome. He had to live in his humanness in order to show us the way to live was by clinging to God.
"5. John 5:19 (same link as above)
The Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees the Father doing, because whatever the Father does, the Son does also.
Jesus declares that he is following a pattern laid down by God. He is expressing obedience to God."(But I say) see #4
"6. Mark 10:18 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MRK.10.KJV
Why do you call me good? No one is good, except God alone.
Here Jesus emphatically makes a distinction between himself and God." (But I say) It wasn't a rebuke for calling Him good, he was making a statement that the rich young ruler was acknowledging Jesus divinity.
"7. John 14:28 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/JHN.14.KJV
The Father is greater than I.
This is another strong statement that makes a distinction between Jesus and God." (But I say) see #4 again.
"8. Matthew 6:9 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.6.KJV
Our Father, which art in Heaven.
He didn’t pray, Our Father, which art standing right here!” (But I say) Acts 7:49
Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest? https://my.bible.com/bible/1/ACT.7.KJV Yes God the Father resides in Heaven. (note: only called Father and Begotten son because Jesus took the form of humanity when He was here on earth)
"9. Matthew 27:46 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.27.KJV
My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Inconceivable if he is God the Creator." (But I say) Jesus is quoting Psalms 22:1 "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring 6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people. 7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 8 He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him. 13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion. 14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels. 15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death. 16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have enclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture." https://my.bible.com/bible/1/PSA.22.KJV He did this as one last attempt to get their attention because the Psalm was a prophecy about himself. Then Psalms 23 and 24 were continuing prophecies about himself to. Him speaking those words were more in faith, of Psalms 24:7 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. 8 Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle. 9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. 10 Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah. These words were about Him going home to heaven after his death. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/PSA.24.KJV John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (and #1,4 again, link in #1 for John 1)
"10. John 17:21-23 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/JHN.17.KJV
. . .that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. . ..that they may be one as we are one: I in them and you in me.
In this prayer Jesus defines the term “to be one.” It is clearly accomplished through the relationship of two autonomous beings. Christian believers are to model their relationship (to become one) after the relationship of God and Christ (as God and Christ are one). Notice that “to be one” does not mean to be “one and the same.” " (But I say) Philippians 2:6 (KJV) 6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" There are three individual beings who are all equal to each other. 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.28.KJV
"11. 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/1CO.15.KJV
For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
Paul declares that God put everything under Christ, except God himself. Instead God rules all things through Christ. (remember: “through him all things were made.”)" (But I say,) (Um, are you contradicting your own #9?) Matthew 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.4.KJV Jesus never once stopped anyone from worshiping Himself. Just a few examples: Matthew 15:25 (KJV) Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. John 9:38 (KJV) And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him. Matthew 28:17 (KJV) And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. Mark 5:6 (KJV) But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, Luke 24:52 (KJV) And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:
"12. Hebrews 1:3 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/HEB.1.KJV
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being.
Jesus is the exact representation of his being. I send my representative to Congress. He is not me, myself. He is my representative." (But I say,) your congressional representative is not your EXACT representation. This verse speaks for itself.
"13. Hebrews 4:15 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/HEB.4.KJV(compared with James 1:13)
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet without sin.
Jesus has been tempted in every way, just as we are, yet he never sinned. See James 1:13: When tempted, no one should say, God is tempting me. For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/JAS.1.KJV Jesus was tempted in every way, but God cannot be tempted. This is why Jesus said, “don’t call me good, none are good, only God.” " (But I say,) first you are misquoting Jesus. He never said, "Don't call me good. What He said was, "why are you calling me Good?" (see #6) God cannot be tempted, but the humanity that Jesus took upon Himself could.
"14. Hebrews 5:7-9 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/HEB.5.KJV
During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him
Jesus had to walk a course of faith and obedience in order to achieve perfection. By achieving perfection, Jesus “became” the source of eternal salvation." (But I say, ) You left out a little phrase that says, "7 Who in the days of his flesh...") talking about when God took human form. Yes Jesus came and offered up prayers, and submitted His human will to that of the divine, because of this verse: 1 Peter 2:21 (KJV) "For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:" Jesus came to give us an example of how we could live. He could not have done this if He USED His divinity. Just because we cannot explain how He could be 100% human AND 100% Divine does not make any of His claims to be equal with God untrue. In fact, He would have been guilty of blasphemy if it were not true, which would make Him a most evil being and not a good man or prophet as some claim. See also Matthew 1:23 https://my.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.1.KJV Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. (Numbers 1-14 above are copied directly from link above. My personal words are after each number and start with "But I say" until you get to the next number.) (The link below is directly copied as is, without editing, underneath it)
https://www.gotquestions.org/is-Jesus-God.html
"Question: "Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?"
Answer: The Bible never records Jesus saying the precise words, “I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus’ words in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason: “You, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. When Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one,” He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, “58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” Jews who heard this statement responded by taking up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded (Leviticus 24:16).
John reiterates the concept of Jesus’ deity: “The Word [Jesus] was God” and “the Word became flesh” (John 1:1, 14). These verses clearly indicate that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us, “Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” Who bought the church with His own blood? Jesus Christ. And this same verse declares that God purchased His church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!
Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus, “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. Titus 2:13 encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1). In Hebrews 1:8, the Father declares of Jesus, “But about the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The Father refers to Jesus as “O God,” indicating that Jesus is indeed God.
In Revelation, an angel instructed the apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11; 14:33; 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation did. There are many other passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus’ deity.
The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that, if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death."
Who was Satan wanting to be? Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!O Lucifer: or, O day star 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/ISA.14.KJV .Daniel 4:2 I thought it good to shew the signs and wonders that the high God hath wrought toward me. 17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/DAN.4.KJV Psalms 78:35 And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/PSA.78.KJV 1 Corinthians 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/1CO.10.KJV 1 Peter 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: https://my.bible.com/bible/1/1PE.1.KJV Answer : Jesus =most high God Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. https://my.bible.com/bible/1/HEB.1.KJV
See also my other blog on this subject: http://iodtiger.blogspot.com/2013/03/jesusgod.html
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